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Steve Harper's avatar

Michael, thank you for this writing, and the larger series within which it exists, one that is so insightful and needed in this liminal-space time. You bring in detailed experience the spirit of Brian McLaren's book, 'Everything Must Change.'

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Michael Adam Beck's avatar

Thanks for the affirmation! Now is the time to make these changes.

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Jess's avatar

This is good stuff. Another problem is that we submit the reports and the data is not used in any significant way.

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LC Wright's avatar

The most important things that happen in ministry never show up on the spreadsheet.

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John Banks's avatar

Can love really be quantified? I'm with you on this, I'm just wondering if the things we need to measure actually can be measured.

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George Kline's avatar

Thank God this conversation is finally happening. Hopefully it's not 50 years too late.

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Matt L's avatar

I can't tell you how many times I have had this same conversation with our churches the last twenty years.

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Reverend WH's avatar

This is literally the best thing on Substack. Thank you.

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